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Brody's Aquaphobia and Mayor Vaughn

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  1. RatBoy


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    Am I right to assume that at the end of Jaws while Brody and Hooper are kicking their way towards shore, Brody made a comment about how he use to hate the water but can't imagine why?

    Was this dialogue meant to insinuate that Brody was no longer afraid of the water and his encounter with the shark helped him overcome his Aquaphobia?

    If so, then I must add heavy criticism towrds Jaws 2 for de-evolving Brody's character like that because he was clearly still an Aquaphobe in Jaws 2.

    I can clearly understand the Shark Paranoia that he had in Jaws 2 but the film makers should have left Brody's reformed Aquaphobic mentality intact.

    The best thing about sequels are charcter development and evolution ala Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back or Terminator 2 but Jaws 2 did the Brody character a terrible disservice by glossing over and contradicting his character's triumph over his fear of water.

    Another thing that bothered me about Jaws 2 was the editing and how it made the character of Larry Vaughn look. He was totally an ass in that sequel.

    In the first Jaws movie, I found that scene with Larry full of guilt and shame "My kids were on that beach too" a powerful scene and a turning point for Larry's character.

    Technically, this turning point of Larry's character did carry over into J2 because Larry did defend Brody before the town council and called him a "good man" and was the only member that voted against firing him.

    Why were those scenes deleted ?

    I hope that someday, Universal will release an extended director's version of Jaws 2 with those Town Council scenes restored as well as the underwater helicopter scene and all references to Brody's Aquaphobia removed.

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    I can see 70's sarcasm is lost in the new millennium.

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  3. RatBoy


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    so are you saying that Brody's comment were meant to be sarcastic and he was in fact just as Aquaphobic at the end of the movie?

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  4. psychocuda


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    yup

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  5. S. Michael Simms


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    Let me try this one, cudes:

    See, Brody hated the water. After he defeats Jaws, he still hates the water but he's gotta paddle back to shore with Hooper; and it's a long paddle back, so Brody tries to lighten things up by injecting a form of humor called "sarcasm". Sarcasm is when you say something opposite of what you really mean (usually with sardonic overtones). That's kinda funny. So Brody says he used to hate the water, even though he really still hates the water, and Hooper, being a Jew with naturally impeccable comic timing says he can't imagine why, thereby making the long paddle back even lighter and seeming like less of a pain in the ass. I hope you enjoyed today's humor lesson: "Sarcasm". Come back tomorrow for chapter two: "Ethnic Jokes."

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  6. psychocuda


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    Only one, but he screws it up very thoroughly.

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  7. RatBoy


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    Okay, when Brody blows the shark up and the headless shark sinks to the bottom of the sea, the ocean around them literally turned red.

    Wouldn't all that blood attract more sharks.... or possibly a entire school of sharks ?

    And if so, wouldn't a kicking and paddling hooper and Brody make a prime target for these sharks?

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  8. viola1994


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    yes i suppose it would but if you listen to the actual movie they say on a few occasions that sharks are rare in those waters and the catch of the tiger shark was a rare find so possibly it would have attracted more sharks but if it did it would have contradicted the whole point of the film

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  9. Greg


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    Hooper, being a Jew with naturally impeccable comic timing says he can't imagine why, thereby making the long paddle back even lighter and seeming like less of a pain in the ass.

    LMFAO, wow. I really needed that laugh, LOL!

    Brody didn't lose his aquaphobia at the end of the original film. If Hooper was killed, I'm pretty sure Brody would have had the worst time trying to even swim to those barrels somewhere offscreen. He probably wouldn't have even made it to shore. That's why it was a great change to have Hooper survive, so it would have given Brody (and the audience) something optimistic to latch onto again (seeing that optimism tends to be a huge theme in Spielberg's works): more sarcastic and awkward banter between Brody and Hooper. Life goes on-- a similar thing happens in the extended scene between Kinderman and Dyer in the new Exorcist cut.

    The Brody character actually confronts a lot more of his own personal flaws in the second film actually. He's a lot more paranoid, impatient, and confrontational. He is also a lot more edgy, cynical, and experienced which works to his benefit, but not in front of a town council who simply don't want to listen. I think the deleted scenes that Szwarc mentions in the documentary are ones he actually wanted to keep because he seems to talk about them fondly. The studio probably ordered them cut for time reasons, which happens a lot, and not the fault of Neil Travis who later became an Oscar winning editor. Uni seems to have a habit of only doing a special DVD extended version if the film is new and not a much older one, especially a film that is now 30 years old. Besides, I believe they show an extended version of J2 on TBS or somewhere these days with those scenes. You could DVR it.

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  10. LOU


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    LOL! I've thought about this myself but I've always concluded that there is NO WAY someone who hated the water as much as The Chief would then suddenly enjoy frolicking in the surf after facing a terrifying 25-foot shark that almost had him for dinner. I too would love to see the deleted scenes returned because they were all pretty good for Jaws 2. A lot of films' deleted scenes "belong" deleted scenes; but many that were cut from Jaws 2 have to have you scratching your head...the parking ticket to Petersen was classic! The Mayor abstaining from firing Brody is a crucial scene, the overtured Helicopter pilot getting attacked was acceptable as well. Sure, I could do without the suddenly-20-years-younger-and-now-Hispanic Polly (who appears in one rare deleted scene that somehow never made it on the Jaws 2 DVD) and I could do without Brody taking his shirt off in the bedroom scene; but I really like the rest of Jaws 2's deleted scenes...
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  12. S. Michael Simms


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    Poor ratboy. He said he had a thick skin, so I laid it out for him nice and blunt— haven't seen him since. I feel kinda bad now, but I would rather have someone just come right out and tell me what my problem is than let me walk around with egg on my face. I can agree or not, but I'm gonna look in the mirror and either wipe the egg off or smash a fresh one on there cause hey, I like the texture; but either way, I'm not gonna disappear with my tail between my legs...yoi! yoi! yoi! Bitch is as bitch does.

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